To me 3-MMC felt just like a stimulant, a filthy one which probably hits various transmitter's. But small Seotonin imo and short lastin kinda lacklustre. HOLY MOLY! I wish I'd tried out these faster. It built bringing them down the steps so much easier for me. My knees and back are loving 23lb bags! Boris D. Subsequent up will be Pentylone. E